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Most of the visitors to Metallography.com are practicing metallographers and technicians or are learning the techniques as part of an advanced education in some materials science field. Metallography is variously described as an art or a science or both. The Metals Handbook Desk Edition defines metallography as " The science dealing with the constitution and structure of metals and alloys as revealed by the unaided eye or by such tools as low-powered magnification, optical microscopy, electron microscopy and diffraction or x-ray techniques."
These are answers to questions frequently discussed at The Metallography Forum . They are posted here to help direct you to other useful resources. Click on a question to see the answer.



Where on the Internet can I find phase diagrams?

Try The Phase Diagram Web a free service of The Georgia Tech Joint Student Chapter of ASM/TMS.
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How do I prepare and etch aluminum alloys.

One of the panel members received the following information from a researcher in the Czech Republic who works for the Research Institute for Metals and presented a paper about Al 8006 at the 1999 IMS convention:

"We really use Barker's reagent (4 to 5 ml fluoroboric acid in 200ml water), electrolytic anodizing at 20 to 22V during 90 to 180s and then we examine the samples under crossed polarizer and analyzer with sensitive tint."

She also sent along the following preparation procedures for other aluminum alloys:

"We use the most often cold mounting in acrylic compounds, wet grinding on SiC papers - the usual set is P220, P500, P800, P1200, then coarse polishing on diamond suspensions - 7, 3 and 1 microns and final polishing on silica suspension (Buehler MASTERMET 2).
The etchants we use more frequently for macroetching are:
- Tucker's reagent: HCl - 45 ml, HF - 15ml, HNO3 - 15 ml, H2O - 25 ml
- 10 to 20% aqueous solution of NaOH followed by rinsing in 50% aqueous solution of HNO3
- diluted Tucker: 300 ml HCl, 300 ml HNO3, 5 ml HF, 300 ml H2O
Microetching reagents:
- 0.5% aqueous solution of HF
- 30% aqueous solution of HNO3
- Dix-Keller reagent: 1 ml HF, 1.5 ml HCl, 2.5ml HNO3, 95 ml H2O"
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How do I prepare and etch cast iron specimens?

Janina Radzikowska, Senior Metallographer, The Foundary Research Institute (Instytut Odlewnictwa) Kraków, Poland wrote an excellent article entitled "Preparation of Cast Iron Foundry Alloys." It was originally published by Buehler in Tech-Notes, Volume 2, Issue 2 and is reproduced here with the kind permission of the Editor, Mr. George Vander Voort, Director, Research and Technology, Buehler Ltd.. There are 22 accompanying photomicrographs
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Where can I get a digital camera for my microscope?

If you're new to digital photography, start by visiting Curtin's Short Courses in Digital Photography" for an exhaustive review of the subject. Another excellent review/tutorial can be found at Sound Vision Incorporated's, "How Digital Cameras Work" which deals with the technical issues and recommendations of camera types based on application needs.
The following list is not meant to recommend any particular camera.
The Scientific Imaging Systems group of the Eastman Kodak Company offers a Microscopy Documentation System based on the Kodak Digital Science DC120 digital zoom camera. For more information on the Kodak camera send email to Robin Montmayeur Microscopy Marketing Specialist (rlmont@kodak.com) or contact Kodak's Technical Support Group at sis-support@kodak.com or call 877-SIS-HELP.
Diagnostic Instruments Inc. sells a high resolution digital camera called "SPOT" that was specifically designed for use on microscopes.
Polaroid has a digital camera called the "DMC" or Digital Microscope Camera.
Sci-Eye Inc offers a miniature color camera for microscope use called the MMC-2. It has lower resolution than the others mentioned above (320X240).
Any full service metallography equipment vendor should be able to supply digital cameras for your microscope, or at least refer you to a company that can.
The list of vendors maintained by ASM International might also include those offering digital camera equipment.
You'll find many others by doing a "Keyword Search" for "digital camera" at the Microscopy Vendors Database maintained by Henrik Kaker.
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Where can I take a basic metallography course?

There are several places to find basic metallography courses other than at colleges. ASM International offers the largest variety of basic, introductory, and advanced courses at their headquarters outside Cleveland, Ohio. A partial list includes:

Metallography of Plasma Spray Coated Materials Intro to Metallurgical Laboratory Processes Microscopy for Metallurgy and Materials Science
Advanced Metallographic Techniques Metallographic Techniques for Advanced Materials Metallography of Micro-electronic Materials
Modern Methods for Ceramography Field Metallography Metallographic Applications of Image Analysis Technology
Metallography of Fasteners Metallographic Interpretation Principles of Failure Analysis
Fractography Mechanical Testing of Metals Welding Metallurgy
Titanium and it's Alloys Elements of Metallurgy Heat Treating Quality and Inspection

Several of these courses are available via correspondence, on video tape, and even on the internet. The entire ASM course schedule is available online. For more information call 800-336-5152 extension 5616 or send email to mem-serv@asminternational.org. ASM also has local chapters scattered around the country which occasionally sponsor courses locally.

Buehler Ltd., of Lake Bluff Illinois, also has an ambitious course schedule which includes:

Basic Metallography Microelectronic Devices
Metallography of Fasteners Materials Characterization of Ferrous Alloys
Advanced Metallographic Techniques PC Boards
Failure Analysis of Microelectronic Materials Petrographic Preparation

Buehler's complete course schedule is also available online. For more information call Sandy Lund at 847-295-4679. Fax 847-295-7929.

Leco Corporation offers several courses at their St.Joseph, Michigan headquarters including:

Principles of Metallurgy and Interpretation of Microstructures in Ferrous Alloys
Metallographic Techniques

For additional information phone 616-983-5531 or fax 616-983-3850 or email Chris Warren (chris_warren@leco.com).

If you're looking for in-house training in heat treating, metallurgy, metallography, or any of a variety of other topics, contact AMI Training Services at 13765, Clover Lake Drive, Chardon, OH 44024; Phone: 440-564-9128, 800-616-0385, Fax: 440-564-7835. For additional information email Marc Starrett at mstarrett@cyberdrive.net.
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Are there any books about metallography?

There are dozens of books relating to metallography. George L. Kehl's book The Principles of Metallographic Laboratory Practice, McGraw-Hill, 1949 was once the metallographer's bible. It still makes interesting reading if just to gain a better appreciation of our modern methods which we sometimes find so tedious and take for granted. A couple of more modern comprehensive and convenient references are:

Buehler Ltd. maintains a good list of recommended books at their website. (or here if your browser doesn't support frames) It includes both "in print" and "out of print" volumes.

There are many others relating to specific materials. Try searching the stacks at the ASM bookstore, Amazon.com, or Barnes and Noble.
Remember, members of ASM International or the International Metallographic Society are frequently notified of, and receive substantial discounts on, new publications in the materials field.

Technicians and metallographers should also have a copy of the Annual Book of ASTM Standards Section 3, Metals Test Methods and Analytical Procedures, Volume 3.01, Mechanical Testing; Elevated and Low-Temperature Tests; Metallography. There are 1152 pages comprising 114 standards. According to ASTM:
"This volume features 20 metallography tests and practices that define standard optical, electron, and x-ray procedures for determining the constituents and structure of metals and alloys. Examples: E 384 Test Method for Microhardness of Materials and E 45 Test Method for Determining the Inclusion Content of Steel.
Several standard practices cover procedures for determining the effect of temperature on metals.
55 tests and practices detail the standard procedures needed to perform mechanical testing, including: machine calibration, bend and flexure testing, compression, ductility and formability, elastic properties, impact, linear thermal expansion, shear and torsion, residual stress, and tension testing. Includes: E 238 Test Method for Pin Type Bearing Test of Metallic Materials and E 10 Test Methods for Brinell Hardness of Metallic Materials.
About 10 standards define terms related to fatigue testing and loading, and explain procedures involved in fatigue testing, such as cycle counting and statistical analysis. Example: E 606 Practice for Constant-Amplitude Low Cycle Fatigue Testing.
Nearly 15 tests and practices list the steps required to perform fracture testing. Includes: E 561 Practice for R-Curve Determination."
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Are there any recommended standard methods or practices for performing metallographic procedures? What organization is responsible for creating these standards?

Yes, there are recommended standard practices for metallographic procedures. The American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) Committee E-4 on Metallography, established in 1916, is responsible for many of them. To learn more about ASTM Committee E-4, please read the excellent history from the May '91 issue of ASTM Standardization News. Here are a few of E-4's standards:

Metallographers might be particularly interested in the Annual Book of ASTM Standards Section 3, Metals Test Methods and Analytical Procedures, Volume 3.01, Mechanical Testing; Elevated and Low-Temperature Tests; Metallography. There are 1152 pages comprising 114 standards. According to ASTM:
"This volume features 20 metallography tests and practices that define standard optical, electron, and x-ray procedures for determining the constituents and structure of metals and alloys. Examples: E 384 Test Method for Microhardness of Materials and E 45 Test Method for Determining the Inclusion Content of Steel.
Several standard practices cover procedures for determining the effect of temperature on metals.
55 tests and practices detail the standard procedures needed to perform mechanical testing, including: machine calibration, bend and flexure testing, compression, ductility and formability, elastic properties, impact, linear thermal expansion, shear and torsion, residual stress, and tension testing. Includes: E 238 Test Method for Pin Type Bearing Test of Metallic Materials and E 10 Test Methods for Brinell Hardness of Metallic Materials.
About 10 standards define terms related to fatigue testing and loading, and explain procedures involved in fatigue testing, such as cycle counting and statistical analysis. Example: E 606 Practice for Constant-Amplitude Low Cycle Fatigue Testing.
Nearly 15 tests and practices list the steps required to perform fracture testing. Includes: E 561 Practice for R-Curve Determination."
Summaries of all ASTM standards are available at the ASTM website. You may also phurchase complete standards from their site.
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Where can I find lots of materials-related information that is not necessarily related to metallographic techniques.

Most of the reference materials you'll need are not available in their entirety online. Many can be ordered online, but if you're in a hurry use online resources to track down the books, journals, or articles which can then be studied in greater detail at your local library.
ASM International
is the largest distributor of materials information (not just metals information) in the world. Their website is a great place to begin a search. The ASM Bookstore is searchable by keyword and contains descriptions and tables of content for most of the books ASM publishes. Once you find an appropriate reference, jot down it's title, author, and ISBN number to help you locate it in your local library. Or the 10,000 volume ASM Library offers 24-48 hour delivery service for copies of: conference papers, journal articles, phase diagrams, and alloy data sheets. You can also arrange a literature search through ASM's library and ASM maintains several Webboard Discussion Forums at their website where you may post questions.
METALogic N.V.,
a spin-off company of the Department of Metallurgy and Materials Engineering (MTM) of the Katholieke Universteit Leuren in Belgium, maintains an online materials information system. It's purpose is to provide concise information on materials and materials selection criteria for corrosive applications, but the site contains plenty of other data on a variety of materials from non-metallics to Zinc.
The Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society (TMS)
maintains a website where you can search the subject index and tables of contents for their journal "JOM". About 40 selected articles are available in their entirety online. One in particular, "Understanding the Internet: A Guide for Materials Scientists and Engineers" by Dr. Kenneth J. Meltsner, lists many of the materials science related newsgroups (discussion groups) available online. You might also find some help through one of the sites listed on the TMS "Links to Links" page.
A good source for technical standards on a wide variety of materials is the American Society for Testing and Materials. ASTM "has developed and published 10,000 technical standards, which are used by industries worldwide...Technical publications, training courses, and Statistical Quality Assurance Programs are other ASTM products; ASTM services include The ASTM Institute for Standards Research." You can search their files several ways and read summaries of the standards online or have complete standards faxed to you within 15 minutes.
The Principal Metals, Inc. website offers free access to their "Specifications Cross Reference", "Material Property Data", and "Prime Metals Weight Calculator". They cross reference over 6000 AMS, ASTM, ASME, MIL, QQ, UNS and proprietary DMS, GE (B50) and PWA specifications. There is complete property data including chemistry, mechanicals, welding, heat treating, forming, fabricating and application data on more than 5000 ferrous and non-ferrous alloys. The weight calculator automatically calculates the weight of rounds, flats, hexagons, sheets, plates, tube, discs and rings in standard or metric sizes in any metal.
If you're looking for a material to fit your property requirements, Automation Creations, Inc. has created MatWeb, a free online materials information resource. MatWeb's database currently includes comprehensive coverage of thermoplastic and thermoset polymers, aluminum, magnesium, steel, titanium and zinc alloys, plus a solid and growing list of ceramics and other metals.
If you're seeking general information about individual elements, you'll find a wealth of data on the Periodic Table maintained by Los Alamos National Laboratory.
For those interested in copper alloys, the Copper Development Association maintains a great site full of copper alloy micrographs and other pertinent information.
Looking for information about steel? Check with the Steel Manufacturers Association or the International Iron and Steel Institute. You'll also find over 4,000 links to steelmaking and steel-related technologies at "Steelynx" a site maintained by Cathy Stewart (no relation). For technical inquiries or other steel-related conversation subscribe to "SteelTalk", the listserver administered by Ted Kuster a contributing editor for Iron Age/New Steel magazine.
Interested in the preparation of cement/mortar samples? Contact the International Cement Microscopy Association via http://www.cemmicro.org/ .
Have a question about heat treating procedures, furnaces and facilities, or want to participate in general heat treating discussion? Visit HeatTreatingOnline.com. Their discussion boards are monitored by a panel of industry experts.
Metallography.com
offers two methods to help you find other information on the World Wide Web. There is a list of links to websites for all sorts of materials organizations and universities at http://www.metallography.com/links.htm. Or for freestyle searching the entire Internet try the search page at http://www.metallography.com/search.htm. You can search by keywords using: AltaVista, Excite, Infoseek, Lycos, and Yahoo. There are also links to WebCrawler and HotBot (preset to search for "metallography"), as well as links to 8 other search engines.
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How were the methods for determining grain size developed?

To find out more about the evolution of grain size measurement, please read the history of ASTM E112 at http://www.metallography.com/grain.htm. The article originally appeared in ASTM Standardization News.
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How do tint etches work and can you suggest any for copper alloys and steel?

An excellent article called "Tint Etching" was printed in Metal Progress magazine several years ago. It is reproduced at http://www.metallography.com/etching/tint.htm complete with 11 micrographs and 21 selected tint etches.
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Where can I find information about automated image analysis software?

You could start by reading these two articles "Image Analysis for Materials Science" , reproduced from an article that originally appeared in Metal Progress magazine and "Choosing an Imaging System" reproduced from Advanced Materials and Processes magazine. There are several other articles on quantitative microscopy and image analysis at Clemex Technology's site. Then visit ASM International's website where they maintain a list of links to Image Analysis vendors at http://www.asm-intl.org/testing/directry/30.htm.
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What are the differences between brightfield, darkfield, polarized light, and differential interference contrast? Which illumination mode is best for my particular sample?

Buehler Ltd. published a great explanation of the various illumination techniques in a Tech-Notes article written by their director of research and technology, George Vander Voort. That article is reproduced here complete with 15 accompanying micrographs.
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Is there a central archive with all sorts of tips and tricks for TEM, SEM Computers, Photography, Safety, and Light Microscopy?

Take a look at the "Tips and Tricks" archive for TEM, SEM Computers, Photography, Safety, and Light Microscopy gleaned from the Microscopy and Confocal listservers and independent contributions. The archive is maintained by Scott D. Whittaker at the University of Florida, Gainesville.
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